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Peace of islam: what if tomorrow…?

Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:23 AM EST
terrorism, politics, islam, morality, honesty
By Mr. Roger Rabbit

Live Poll

With no Yemen my life ... ?

View Results
  • 124245
    Will hardly change
    89%
  • 124246
    Will be somewhat different
    11%
  • 124247
    It will be the end of my life as I know it
    0%

VoteTotal Votes: 9

Live Poll

Should we keep Yemen?

View Results
  • 124248
    Yes, for historical and cultural purposes
    14%
  • 124249
    Yes, for positive influence on the world affairs
    0%
  • 124250
    Just nuke'm
    14%
  • 124251
    Go green - use thermobaric weapons
    71%

VoteTotal Votes: 7

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I want to ask my fellow viners to answer a very simple question: “How would YOUR life change if tomorrow morning there was no Yemen?” To clarify – I am not advocating nuking them (I will do so at the end of the post). I am not advocating invading them and overthrowing their government, and installing a democracy there. I think we were stupid in trying to do it in the first two cases.

All I am asking of you is to let me know how will your daily routine change if by through the will of allah God or Gandalf made Yemen no more tomorrow morning? Like there is no Hobitton on this planet Earth, there would be no Yemen in the Middle East?

I am not asking about the humanity of such proposal, I am not asking to judge me, or to implement it. All I am asking my fellow viners is to honestly answer not to me, but to themselves – what will change in their daily lives if tomorrow there was no Yemen?

As of late I have been asking this question of myself – and had to say: Nothing. I have been asking this of my friends and co-workers and almost all of them said the same thing: Nothing. There are somewhere between 168 and 196 independent recognized countries in the world, with 192 of them being the UN members. There is also a number of geo-political entities that are recognized by no one, and yet exists and act as countries of their own. Being honest with yourself – please tell me would you honestly miss a country you never heard of, because you just heard of it?

What makes Yemen so special? The fact that they send us gifts? The fact that they breed terrorism? Why do we need it in a first place, and if we don’t – why is it still there? If nobody’s life has changed with no Yemen, than why there is a Yemen? What’s in it for me?

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Mr. Roger Rabbit

I’m not sure how much CoH I am going to enforce, but I request that everyone’s posts focuses on the answer to the question, rather than the discussion of the depth of my immorality. I assure you that I am well aware of it.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:24 AM EST
bonos_rama

You could ask that about any country, really. Would your life change drastically if Poland disappeared? israel? Wales? madagascar?

But why would anyone wish all of the people of these lands any harm? If a few terrorists taint a whole country, then I'm afraid there are people that would ask this question about the USA. We've had a few native born acts of terror ourselves. I don't think we all deserve to die because of what these homegrown terrorists have done, do you?

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:40 AM EST
LizLiz

But why would anyone wish all of the people of these lands any harm?

I second that. What kind of human sits and thinks about erasing an entire culture? What kind of person would have the nerve and works in an environment that would allow them to ask this of their co-workers? What kind of family would not seek mental help for a person who is constantly plagued with such a question?

The real kicker is your last question: "What's in it for me?" I'm not a mental health professional, but it sounds as if you have a narcissitic personality disorder. You honestly want to know how another countries existence will benefit you?

For your sake I hope this was an attempt at satire.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:50 AM EST
Mr. Roger Rabbit

But why would anyone wish all of the people of these lands any harm?

I agree. I do not know why they wish us harm, but since they do - what is the harm in harming them, and ending it all at once?

P.S. Please vote

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:54 AM EST
LizLizRestored

P.S. Please vote

No thanks. Unlike the "author" I don't think of erasing a whole country and culture. My parents raised me with morals and respect.

I'm finished here.

  • 2 votes
#2.3 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:59 AM EST
bonos_rama

You just wished their country harm. Unfortunately, that means some other country can now decide WE don't deserve to live. See how that works?

  • 4 votes
#2.4 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:32 AM EST
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Santino42

First off this article is not a News Event it's a News Opinion.

Second, with this misguided opinion/question of yours, the people who live in extremely rural areas of the globe where practically no outside influence effects them - should they just rid themselves of the rest of humanity too?

We are all connected one way or another on this planet. A global economy is already well upon us and even Yemen participates.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:53 AM EST
Mr. Roger Rabbit

We are all connected one way or another on this planet. A global economy is already well upon us and even Yemen participates.

Yeah, can see air freight is getting big over there. Question is - is it worth it?

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:57 AM EST
bonos_rama

What about Northern Ireland? Should we decimate that country, in your opinion, because they have bombings every week or so?

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:34 AM EST
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Dennis P McCann

What makes Yemen so special?

Humans live there.

The fact that they send us gifts?

No.

The fact that they breed terrorism?

Pretty much every country breeds terrorism, including our own.

Why do we need it in a first place, and if we don't – why is it still there?

Because the world doesn't revolve around "us?"

If nobody's life has changed with no Yemen, than why there is a Yemen?

What about the Yemenis?

What's in it for me?

Who gives a @!$%#?

What if you woke up tomorrow and there was no Nebraska? Would your life change?

  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:04 AM EST
LizLizRestored

What if you woke up tomorrow and there was no Nebraska?

Hell yes! I live here! ;) I'm sure that's how the people in Yemen would feel about the idea of erasing their country as well.

GO BIG RED!!!

    #4.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:11 AM EST
    Mr. Roger Rabbit

    Humans live there.

    Humans have successfully infested the entire planet, and some humans are nicer than others. What is your point?

    Pretty much every country breeds terrorism, including our own.

    Really? What was the name of the last Polish terrorist you know? Or one from Tibet? And how do we in the US breed international terrorism?

    Because the world doesn't revolve around "us?"

    It does not, but we can make it.

    What about the Yemenis?

    How did you put it in the next line? Who gives a @!$%#?

    What if you woke up tomorrow and there was no Nebraska? Would your life change?

    Yeah, it would. We could finally clear the world of the muslim terrorists and their open and silent supporters, including but not limited to the Yemen.

    In the mean time please tell me when was the last time a Nebraskan sent an explosive package to Sana'a, and how many international terrorist camps are there in Nebraska?

    • 4 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:14 AM EST
    Dennis P McCann

    Oh, sorry. We'll keep Nebraska.

    Make that no Idaho.

    • 2 votes
    #4.3 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:14 AM EST
    Dennis P McCann

    Humans have successfully infested the entire planet, and some humans are nicer than others. What is your point?

    Good point. I know some Yemenis, and unlike you, they're not advocating killing anyone.

    I'm done here. Have your genocidal fantasy without me.

    • 4 votes
    #4.4 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:18 AM EST
    Mr. Roger Rabbit

    I know some Yemenis, and unlike you, they're not advocating killing anyone.

    Really? And what have they done to stop those other from killing me? Nothing (as I strongly suspect) is not good enough.

    I'm done here. Have your genocidal fantasy without me.

    I will and it is a good one, much better than all those poor virgins in the after-life.

    • 2 votes
    #4.5 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:32 AM EST
    bonos_rama

    All those terrorists that sent us bombs were men.

    According to your logic, all men have to now die.

    • 2 votes
    #4.6 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:35 AM EST
    Rijad

    Really? And what have they done to stop those other from killing me? Nothing (as I strongly suspect) is not good enough.

    And what has a single Yemenis done to kill you? Nothing. I know this, because you're still alive to write this nonsense.

    Unless you are the ill-fated printer cartridge or that one terrorist's flammable underwear, I don't see that a single Yemeni has done anything to destroy you.

    • 2 votes
    #4.7 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:20 PM EST
    Mr. Roger Rabbit

    And what has a single Yemenis done to kill you? Nothing

    Beware of Yemenians bearing gifts, or shipping them airmail, as the case might be. Personally I think it is a bit more than nothing. The explosive gifts, the training camps - that is a lot more than nothing.

    I know this, because you're still alive to write this nonsense.

    And I intend to stay that way long after Yemen is but a distant memory, preferably with all of Dar-Al-Islam.

    I don't see that a single Yemeni has done anything to destroy you.

    Those who are not blind - can see. As for the Christmas bomber he was from Niger. But respecting your question - what have they done for me lately?

    • 1 vote
    #4.8 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:02 PM EST
    Rijad

    The explosive gifts, the training camps - that is a lot more than nothing.

    And how many of these explosive "gifts" have you personally received? Or for that matter, how many of them were addressed to you specifically? That's my point. Yemenis are not out to get you. They're out to get rid of political figures, which is definitely wrong. But your desire to kill them because they mailed a bomb to someone else is a bit odd.

    Perhaps, since you are so intent on their death, maybe mail yourself in a package armed with whatever weapons you want. Then you get to satisfy your desire that a) Yemenis die, and b) that you contributed to the effort.

    As for the Christmas bomber he was from Niger.

    Yep. But trained in Yemen. If you're going to call for the death of an entire country's population, you might as well know the facts "supporting" your hatred...

      #4.9 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:35 AM EST
      Mr. Roger Rabbit

      And how many of these explosive "gifts" have you personally received? Or for that matter, how many of them were addressed to you specifically? That's my point. Yemenis are not out to get you. They're out to get rid of political figures, which is definitely wrong. But your desire to kill them because they mailed a bomb to someone else is a bit odd.

      A very interesting and very perverted logic. So when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor it was not an attack on me personally, and I should not hold it against Japan, right? Or let's say because I do not leave in N.Y. City and do not have a direct relative who died in the Towers I should not consider it an act of war. It was not directed at me personally. I've got news for you, whomever you are, these gifts were an attack on my countrymen, on my country and on my way of life. You may find my desires to kill those who mail bombs to my country, and those who harbor them, and those who silently approve a bit odd. I find those desire very natural, and what I find odd is your perverted logic of putting your own personality "uber alles" and thus justifying your indifference and inaction.

      Perhaps, since you are so intent on their death, maybe mail yourself in a package armed with whatever weapons you want. Then you get to satisfy your desire that a) Yemenis die, and b) that you contributed to the effort.

      I do not believe in terrorism, I do believe however in decisive action and MAXIMUM response. I do not want some random Yemeni family dead. I want Yemen no more, that will solve a lot of problem, and save a lot of people's lives. People on my side of this war, which means theirs are the only lives that matter.

      Yep. But trained in Yemen.

      Good, one more reason not to have a Yemen.

      If you're going to call for the death of an entire country's population, you might as well know the facts "supporting" your hatred...

      It is not "hatred" it is a rational and well-measured proposal. I do hate islam, because it poisons brains of innocent people with all my heart, but harbor no ill will towards any particular country or its people. You're confusing solutions with feelings - you must a liberal.

      • 2 votes
      #4.10 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:43 PM EST
      Rijad

      So when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor it was not an attack on me personally, and I should not hold it against Japan, right? Or let's say because I do not leave in N.Y. City and do not have a direct relative who died in the Towers I should not consider it an act of war. It was not directed at me personally.

      That is correct, more or less. You're of course welcome to feel however you wish, but when you are advocating the destruction of an entire population of people, including all those innocent men, women and children who are stuck there, you are crossing a moral line. You are crossing the exact same line that OBL and al Qaeda did: "that people no longer matter, as long as I get what I want." OBL got chaos and fame, you'll get a temporary sense of security.

      I've got news for you, whomever you are, these gifts were an attack on my countrymen, on my country and on my way of life.

      I'm a fellow American. Texan, born and raised. So they attacked my country too. But I'm not about to let them get away with stealing our way of life by stooping down to their level of inhumanity that you are advocating.

      justifying your indifference and inaction.

      What do you really know about what I've done? I'm clearly not indifferent - if I were, I'd simply read your illogical plan and move on to the next seed without comment. As for inaction, I've been doing my part trying to calm people down and get their fingers off the proverbial triggers. OBL got our country so scared we've been turning on each other and voting in a bunch of idiots this year based only on fears of imaginary boogeymen.

      I do not believe in terrorism, I do believe however in decisive action and MAXIMUM response.

      Good. Neither do I. But don't you realize that maximum response is not called for all the time? If I accidentally spill a coke on your windshield, maximum response is not required. Obviously terrorism is not a spilled coke, but at the least, restrict your "maximum response" to the individuals doing the terrorizing, and not their neighbors who have been threatened with death if they turn them in to the authorities.

      I want Yemen no more, that will solve a lot of problem

      Really? In what world are you living? Did you even have a clue that a place called Yemen existed a decade ago? Can you find it on a map now without looking it up? My point is that terrorists taking advantage of the place is a relatively new development. They moved there from somewhere else, and they'll just set up shop elsewhere again. And even if you managed to kill all the ones there, how do you think their comrades in other countries would feel? Are they just going to meekly creep away and commit seppuku? You going to go bomb they hell out of their places too? When does it end?

      save a lot of people's lives. People on my side of this war, which means theirs are the only lives that matter.

      Ah, there's the good ol' basis of your "logic": Only what you think matters, only your life is worth anything, everyone else deserves to die if you say so. How convenient for you to live on a planet designed specifically for you...

      It is not "hatred" it is a rational and well-measured proposal. I do hate islam, because it poisons brains of innocent people with all my heart, but harbor no ill will towards any particular country or its people.

      Ah, my mistake, it's not hatred at all, you just happen to hate someone else's religion with all your heart; the people are OK with you, you merely think their lives aren't as worthwhile as your own and so wish that their country, which you think is a nifty place to be in existence, as long as it no longer exists anymore. Yep. Completely rational... /sarc

      You're confusing solutions with feelings - you must a liberal.

      Why, yes, I am a liberal. You caught me out by the tell-tale sign that I actually care about human beings and dislike irrationality and intolerance. Meanwhile, you're confusing solutions with bombs - you must be Karl Rove.

      • 1 vote
      #4.11 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:18 PM EST
      Mr. Roger Rabbit

      That is correct, more or less.

      I have no reason to continue this conversation, and request that you do the same. Thank you for playing, but based on this answer it appears that the only thing we can agree on is to continue to vehemently disagree about things that most people find elementary.

      • 1 vote
      #4.12 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:47 PM EST
      RijadDeleted
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      goober.70

      MRB would you considered strapping on a bomb and becoming a suicide-bomber in Yemen? That would be a start.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#5 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:25 AM EST
      Mr. Roger Rabbit

      No, my friend, I am not of the philosophy that suide bombing is a good idea, I'd rather just drop the bomb and live happily ever after.

      They have to kill themselves because:

      1. They are to dumb to come up with a better idea
      2. They think their after life will better than this one

      I have neither the intellectual limitation nor the misguided hope, so no - I intend to live.

      • 2 votes
      #5.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:30 AM EST
      bonos_rama

      But you don't DESERVE to live according to your own rules because Timothy McVeigh bombed the Murrah building. He's American like you, correct?

      • 3 votes
      #5.2 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:35 AM EST
      goober.70

      No, my friend, I am not of the philosophy that suide bombing is a good idea, I'd rather just drop the bomb and live happily ever after.

      I am not your friend. You are philosophically bankrupt.

      They have to kill themselves

      They don't have to kill themselves . Not that I agree with theim unlike cowards like you, they live and die by their priciles

        I have neither the intellectual limitation nor the misguided hope,

        You are misguided and your limitations are not restricted to your intellect, such as it is.

        so no -I intend to live.

        Too bad

        • 2 votes
        #5.3 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:35 AM EST
        Mr. Roger Rabbit

        I am not your friend. You are philosophically bankrupt.

        So I conclude you've seen my phylosophical bank account? Or a bad philosophical check I wrote?

        They don't have to kill themselves .

        Actually they do have to kill themselves, the more and faster the better, it is the innocent that they take with them that I am concerned with.

        They don't have to kill themselves . Not that I agree with theim unlike cowards like you, they live and die by their priciles

        How do you figure I am a coward? Because my principals tell me to kill the enemy, live to see the vicrory, and then continue living long after that? Or is it because my civilization has managed to develop superior means of killing the enemy? Which one of them is unpricipled cowardice?

        You are misguided and your limitations are not restricted to your intellect, such as it is.

        Of course I am - I like me, and they don't. Hmm, but they like them, and I don't. I am confused what is the difference?

        | so no -I intend to live.

        Too bad

        Coming from person who criticizes me for wanting to kill other "humans" this is a very interesting comment. One almost has to wonder about your own honesty, and your own relationship to the muslim community? Are you a Buddhist monk who defends the principle of Ahimsa?

        • 2 votes
        #5.4 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:27 PM EST
        goober.70

        So I conclude you've seen my philosophical bank account?

        Yea, you;ve exposed your account and arrogance pretty clearly.

        How do you figure I am a coward?

        Simply... you only talk the talk.

        Coming from person who criticizes me for wanting to kill other "humans"

        Yes I struggled with that, briefly. Than I reflected on you willingness to kill other "humans", but only by proxy. Don't think you'd have the balls to do it yourself. Than it occurred to me that you don''t fvfen consider the consiquences to your countrymen. While I don't wish you any harm, I woudn;t miss you.

        One almost has to wonder about your own honesty, and your own relationship to the muslim community? Are you a Buddhist monk who defends the principle of Ahimsa?

        I figured you'd try to spin it a bit. You failed

        • 1 vote
        #5.5 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:41 PM EST
        Mr. Roger Rabbit

        Yea, you;ve exposed your account and arrogance pretty clearly.

        I was never hiding my arrogance.

        Simply... you only talk the talk.

        Ahhh. Would you prefer I actually killed a few muslims? Than I would be much more deserving of your respect?

        Than I reflected on you willingness to kill other "humans", but only by proxy.

        Meaning what? You recognize only hand-to-hand combat, or do knifes count too? Why would spend countless millenia to develop our military technology, just so a moron such yourself can call civilized people cowards?

        Don't think you'd have the balls to do it yourself.

        Come and lick them.

        While I don't wish you any harm, I woudn;t miss you.

        Of course you would - people like you can't even shoot straight.

        I figured you'd try to spin it a bit. You failed

        Did I? Did I really? Btw I'd like you to answer the question.

        • 1 vote
        #5.6 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:03 PM EST
        bonos_rama

        Should someone eradicate the USA now because Timothy McVeigh bombed the Murrah building? And people have bombed abortion clinics and sent mail bombs to professors, and so on? All of those were white, male, American terrorists.

        • 2 votes
        #5.7 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:32 PM EST
        goober.70

        Don't think you'd have the balls to do it yourself.

        Come and lick them.

        I am not so inclined. Besides, you'll have to grow pair. I must admit it's an original way to out yourself.

          #5.8 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:01 PM EST
          Mr. Roger Rabbit

          I am not so inclined. Besides, you'll have to grow pair. I must admit it's an original way to out yourself.

          One more time - to estimate the presence and the dimensions of my balls you have to get it in person, and since according to you I am the coward, I do not get what seems to be the problem?

          • 2 votes
          #5.9 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:04 PM EST
          Mr. Roger Rabbit

          Should someone eradicate the USA now because Timothy McVeigh bombed the Murrah building? And people have bombed abortion clinics and sent mail bombs to professors, and so on? All of those were white, male, American terrorists.

          As stupid and Tim was, it was domestic. No one is immune from homegrown morons. But that is one thing - having explosive goods shipped from overseas, and having offer the land and protection for people who want to kill us - is quite another. While I think that domestic terrorists should be dealt with swiftly and harshly - I expect my government to deal with those who would wage war on us even more decisively. In other, simpler, kinder, dumber, and perhaps more comprehensible to you words - Timothy McVeigh is very bad, and we have to deal with his kind, but while we are at it - I do not wish to be distracted by some moron brainwashed by islam, so I just want to clear the way.

            #5.10 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:09 PM EST
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            Justin Smith-1635683

            Wow the seeder is just the worst sort of person.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#6 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:35 AM EST
            Mr. Roger Rabbit

            Yes, I love you too. But in all fairness I would reserve the title for the islamic terrorists. But than again perhaps wanting to convert or kill us all, and to destroy our way of life is Ok with you, and wanting to defend our way of life from those who attacked us first is a much more horrible thing to do. But in either case I highly appreciate your enlightened opinion.

            • 1 vote
            #6.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:57 PM EST
            Justin Smith-1635683

            But in all fairness I would reserve the title for the islamic terrorists

            What makes you think you don't belong in the same category as them?

              #6.2 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:38 PM EST
              Mr. Roger Rabbit

              The fact that I am neither enticing the action, nor advocating it, but rather attempting to gauge public opinion about a hypothetical scenario. Pentagon has military plans for all kinds of contingencies, it is their jobs, and no one calls the planning arm of our military a terrorist organization. Well no one, except for the terrorists themselves and their liberal sympathisers.

              • 3 votes
              #6.3 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:43 PM EST
              Reply
              LordFluffy

              It's spelled "Gandalf".

                Reply#7 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:13 PM EST
                Mr. Roger Rabbit

                Thank you, LordFluffy, I fixed it.

                • 2 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:11 PM EST
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                Bdobb

                Rabbit,

                When my country becomes threatened by the likes of Yemen, I feel it is incumbent upon our leaders to give them ultimatums or risk annihilation...not unlike how we stifled Japan as they were hell-bent on dominating the United States. Upon threat to my family and country, I become an instant war monger. Eliminate them all...with unlimited scope.

                  Reply#8 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:13 PM EST
                  Martin FEDWAY

                  Bluslob-What about the stink?

                  • 1 vote
                  #8.1 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:24 PM EST
                  Bdobb

                  Marble FAGWAY,

                  The STINK of unwashed towels.

                    #8.2 - Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:52 PM EST
                    Mr. Roger Rabbit

                    Read #4.11 - he has the same voting rights and leaves in the same country we do. I believe it was him and his friends who elected our fearless leader, who is only capable of issuing ultimatums to the loyal political opposition.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.3 - Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:10 AM EST
                    RijadDeleted
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